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Took me time to read all the comments, but I enjoyed the article.

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Why Ze'ev, I didn't know you cared. So much so as to work yourself into such a swivet. I assume it's a swivet, because it's only some kind of intellectual panic that could cause you to be so illogical. Indeed, one might conclude you were driven by your feelings more than some susceptibility to think about what you say before you say it.

Thanks for the judgment about my "silliness." I think that may not only be an instance of a little gratuitous judgmentalism, but possibly some projection, if you don't mind a wee bit of armchair psychoanalysis.

I mentioned "soul" in the next to last paragraph, and in the manner of what I'd call a metaphor. As for my beliefs, or non-beliefs, I think they're of course my business, but if you want to try to make them yours, it's a noble effort, because I know you only mean me well (unless of course I'm entertaining some dark doubts about your sincerity...). Nevertheless, I try to make it clear that what I don't believe in are the vagaries of organized religion, not least of all the faith in which I was raised (the one I believe, last time I checked, you and your wonderful wife still practice...). I also admit right up front to being agnostic, i.e., as the Greek says, not knowing. If I were to say I was atheist, I think I'd be espousing a belief--a belief in something I can't otherwise prove to be or not to be so.

And finally, I think it's quite clear from the syntax, if not from the tone, though admittedly not at all clear from the sentence structure, that the context for my being told my friends adore me was my inference that the friends who say so think I may need the bolstering of being told such a thing. It neither makes it so, nor does it compel me to believe it. And of course, speaking of belief, of course, I don't. I do believe we all need positive feedback and the expression of love for oneself. It's conducive to mental health. You get an abundance of it, I'm sure. So I imagine you take it for granted. I don't.

Some adore me, I'm sure, at least sporadically. And as Lincoln said about fooling some or all of the people some or all of the time, I can satisfy myself with fractional and intermittent adoration. I may not deserve even that much.

Ze'ev

If you are not a believer, what's this silliness about soul and spirituality?

As to people telling you that they adore you and taking it on faith, does that imply that if you thought about it, you might conclude that there is a significant chance they are lying. What if they are. Is that too dark. What's wrong with dark? Come to think of it, your friends are as responsible for the fucked up state of civilization as anyone else or might be if they were in a position of authority to be responsible. And if they were, would you stop being their friend. Would you judge them then?

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